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Posted February 2nd, 2009 by webmaster
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Tri-State Outdoors Group
Hi everyone, please excuse the self-serving nature of this post but I think it's appropiate. I just started a new outdoors group on meetup.com and thought some members here might be interested in joining it. It's a total free group, it's meant to bring like minded people together for hikes, camping, etc in a friendly atmosphere and enjoy nature at it's finest.
http://www.meetup.com/Tri-State-Outdoors-Group/
emerald ash borer
7/29/2011 Todays Weather & Happy Hiking.
Attention: Possible several thunderstorms for this afternoon.
Eastern Mountain Sports Paramus Now Hiring
Eastern Mountain Sports Paramus is now hiring for a store guide and a keyholder. If you are interested please stop by the store and ask for Kevin the Store Manager or go to EMS's Career page to submit your information: http://hostedjobs.openhire.com/epostings/submit.cfm?company_id=15826
Thanks and see you on the trails!
Kevin A. Boyce
Eastern Mountain Sports Paramus
201-670-6464
EMS Club Days
Popolopen
An oldtimer once told me it was called Pooploop in the old days and you can find that spelling on some colonial era maps, but I don't who or what Pooploop was.
Popolopen Torne name?
Anybody know where it comes from? Most geographical names in the region come from Dutch or Native American, but Popolopen Tourne is neither. It sounds more like Swedish. I'm curious to know the origin of the namesake if anybody has a clue, as there is nothng on the internet. Thanks.
Aug 1894 NY times article on Popolopen area
I found an old NY times article on the history of the area and it mentions the creek containing the "hell hole" as being named Sankapagh around the time of Hudson's exploration. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60E17FA3C5415738DDDA00994D0405B8485F0D3
Weather Alerting Website
I just happened across a new website that I found interesting and useful. JoeWeather.com allows you to set up a profile (one for free) with your own weather specifications for an activity and the site will alert you when those weather conditions will be ideal for a selected location. Now I just have to wait for Joe to tell me when to go hiking!
Sterling Map set
Do we have an ETA for the new Sterling map set? I want to order some maps, and would like to order them all together, but not if the Sterling set is going to keep being delayed. It was originally supposed to be ready in Feb- any updates?
Thanks.
Sterling Trails Map Coming Soon
Hi Michael!
The Sterling Trails map is currently at the printer and we anticipate having it available in the next 1-2 weeks. You can find out more information about the map by clicking here:
http://www.nynjtc.org/panel/sterling-forest-trails-map.
You can also leave your e-mail address and we'll send you an e-mail as soon as the maps are available for purchases. If interested, you can sign-up for this e-mail notification here:
http://www.nynjtc.org/webform/subscribe-sterling-forest-trails-notification
Thanks for your interest!
~Jeremy, TC cartographer
Thank you Jeremy!
Thank you Jeremy!
trail makers
Fishkill Ridge - Sunnyside Rd Parking
No Hunting on Sundays
hunters in harriman
Thanks
HELP!!!
The Barefoot Sisters at Campmor
Mapping
Thanks for your comments,
Thanks for your comments, kaylen!
We do offer a detailed inset map of the Bear Mtn area in the Harriman Trails map set, but this mainly shows additional trail features, park buildings, etc. and does not include the details you mention like cliff faces. Our trail maps are focused on the trails and are not necessarily geared toward orienteering uses. In certain cases, we may try to include details that may be helpful for orienteering purposes, but as you mention, there are often maps available that provide that level of detail, and this is not something that we are trying to accomplish with our trail maps. We certainly commend those that make orienteering maps as we realize the amount of effort that goes into mapping the fine details of the terrain.
~Jeremy, TC cartographer
Lake Skenonto Development?
stacy raised an interesting question on our group discussion board. another participant mentioned the RUNAMUCK race. apparently this is a race allowed by PIPC that not only puts markers up but creates mudpits... so what's wrong with this picture??? anyone from PIPC reading this??apparently june 19 was the NY runamuck race held starting at sebago beach going around lk skenonto on the victory trail....
http://www.runamuckfestival.com/NY_Race_Info.html#NY_Directionss
construction along Victory Trail on West side of Lake Skenanto
Follow Up to my original posting
Long Path National Scenic Trail
Lost & Found
parking at trailheads
Catskill TH parking
lost and found
today Sunday 3/28 near LP/St johns church:
i LOST 1 pair of black diamond trekking poles about 430pm. my blue subaru was parked in front of the barn where the pot luck was held and i left the poles near the car. i came out and they were gone
i FOUND 1 pair of leki trekking poles about 130pm near the path across from st johns church that heads into the long path.
contact me directly banjolady.susan@verizon.net if you have either lost the lekis or found the black diamonds! thanks susan
Trail Logs
What's up;
I was wondering what happens to the log books found in some of the shelters. When they fill up, do the trail maintainers take them home to review, send them in to NYNJTC (or other trail organization), or just toss them out. I thought it would be interesting if someone would scan them, and put them up on a website. Maybe even re-type them, if they are mostly legible. This might be something I would be interested in doing, if there is any interest.
Arden
Shelter Log Books
Hi, I agree with you that they are interesting, especially when we find a post from someone we know. I'll find out from TC Office who replaces these, what happens, and if there is interest in scanning and posting. Please email me at cnjtrails@optonline.net so I have your email information and name to pass on; or to give you an answer.
Thanks!
X-Country Skiing
X County Skiing
In NY: Fahnestock State
Forum Usage??
Usage
Hiking on Sundays, No hunting on Sundays
Hunting/hiking Sundays in NJ
Thankgiving.
Ringwood winter campfire?
NY Ballot Proposal 1
Has the TC taken a position on New York's Ballot Proposal 1?
Here's the text:
Amendment to section 1 of article 14 of the Constitution, in relation to the use of certain forest preserve lands by National Grid to construct a 46 kV power line along State Route 56 in St. Lawrence County. The proposed amendment would authorize the Legislature to convey up to six acres of forest preserve land along State Route 56 in St. Lawrence County to National Grid for construction of a power line. In exchange, National Grid would convey to the State at least 10 acres of forest land in St. Lawrence County, to be incorporated into the forest preserve. The land to be conveyed by National Grid to the State must be at least equal in value to the land conveyed to National Grid by the State. Shall the proposed amendment be approved?
EDIT: It appears the Adirondack Mountain Club (ADK) is urging its members to vote YES on 1.
Devil's Path trail feature
Rattle Snakes in Harriman
Bears...
In my experience, the timber rattlesnakes in the park are pretty good about letting you know you're too close. For the most part, the snakes will know you are approaching before you see them because they are so sensitive to ground vibrations. I've never had a snake problem in the shelters or tenting areas near the shelters. All of my encounters with snakes in Harriman have been during the day when they are sunning themselves on rocks or the trail. Always check your footwear before you insert your foot in the morning. You're looking not only for snakes, but any other bugs that might sting or bite.
In addition to the snakes, there are black bears in Harriman. Unfortunately, many inexperienced hikers fail to follow basic bear-country practices while in the park. Following a few simple guidelines will help keep the bears (and humans) safe. These are a few of the basic bear-country practices, per NY DEC and the US Forest Service you should consider following:
1) The only lawful places to overnight in Harriman are near the shelters. There are plenty of established tent sites near the shelters. When you get to the shelter area, find your tent site and designate it as your sleeping area. About 100 yards downwind of your sleeping area, find a spot that you can designate as your food prep area. Food and other attractants should always remain in the food prep area. Attractants include food, cooking gear, garbage, cosmetics, soap, first-aid kits and other odorous items.
2) Keep a clean and neat site. Pack out any food you might spill.
3) Do all of your food prep, cooking and eating in the food prep area. Never eat or take food or other attractants into your tent.
4) When finished with dinner, strain any food solids out of your dishwater and pack them out with your garbage. Scatter grey water over a wide area away from your sleeping area and water sources.
5) Pack out all garbage and trash. Never bury garbage; bears will find it and dig it up, and you’ll be teaching them camp sites are a good place to look for food. Don’t burn garbage or leftovers; a campfire is not hot enough to completely incinerate the remains, and the smell is very attractive to bears.
6) Hang food and other attractants from a tree limb at least 10-15 feet off the ground, 4-5 feet from the tree trunk and 50-100 yards downwind of your sleeping area (if possible).
7) Never leave food or other attractants unattended, even for a few minutes, unless they are in a bear resistant container or food hang. It’s an open invitation for everything from ground squirrels, birds and even bears to stop by and make off with the loot. This also means not hiding or stashing your pack full of food near the main trail while you take a side trail.
8) I don't recommend sleeping in the clothes you ate dinner in, especially if you've spilled or you're cooking something odorous. I take a weight penalty and bring along a set of thermals I wear only for sleeping. I normally take time after dinner to wash the sweat and smells from my face and hands. It also helps keep my bag smelling better longer.
Rattlesnakes
Re: Defend Trails Funding TODAY
SA 2371 (Coburn) was voted down 39-59.
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
SA 2370 (Coburn) has not been voted on as far as I can tell
Looks like SA 2370 never got a vote
For future reference, the Senate Calendar can be found at: http://democrats.senate.gov/calendar/2009-09.html
Just change the month/year when appropriate.
snakes and dogs
Very useful
Bear education needed at Harriman/Bear Mountain?
I've never seen a black bear while hiking in Harriman, but I've talked with a number of locals who have seen bears in the park. One regular told me he asked a ranger about bear activity and the ranger confirmed that the number of bear sightings has been on the rise over the last few years. Considering the number inexperienced hikers using the backcountry shelters, I'm surprised there aren't signs at the trailheads or shelters listing basic bear procedures.
It might not be a terrible idea to post something about bears, even if it's just in and around the shelters. I'd hate to see a bear habituated to humans because humans didn't hang their food or pack out their garbage. As the saying goes, a fed bear is a dead bear.