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PLEASE PROVIDE COMMENTS BY DECEMBER 12th!

Please send them to Morgan Sommerville, Theresa Layman-Duffey, and Bob Proudman.

Previous reviewers: FSTAG has changed, so if you have the time, it would be worth going through again.

Hello, all. That happy day you've been waiting for has finally arrived!

We have received the latest version of the USFS Trail Accessibility Guidelines (combined FSTAG doc_11_12 draft.), which comes with a Question and Answer document (FSTAG Qs and As.doc) to try to answer your most obvious questions. Also attached is the USFS Outdoor Recreation Accessibility Guidelines (draft_FSORAG_with_Preamble_08 1), and its Question and Answer document (FSORAG_Qs_and_As.doc_1.doc). Also included are comments from people who have reviewed previous drafts (10/02.FS.AccessCombinedComment). Some of these comments have been incorporated by the USFS into the present draft.

Thank you all for either agreeing to provide comments on these drafts, or to monitor the discussion. As stated previously, we request your e-mail comments be returned to me (Morgan), with copies to Theresa Layman and Bob Proudman by next Thursday, December 12, 2002. The USFS wants our comments by Dec. 24.

We would appreciate comments regarding:

  • your specific areas of concern
  • your overarching areas of concern
  • suggestions on how best to present this material to A.T. club volunteers

I have read all the documents and comments I am sending to you. Here is the order in which I suggest you read them:

1. FSTAG (combined FSTAG doc_11_12 draft.)

ALL of this document. It pertains to trails. Of particular interest are:

  • Preamble
  • Preamble Page 4, 5th paragraph (diff. between FSTAG & FSORAG)
  • FSTAG 7.0
  • FSTAG 7.1.1, Conditions of Departure
  • FSTAG 7.1.2, General Exceptions
  • FSTAG 7.2, Defintions (now includes Firm and Stable)
  • Appendix A, all

2. FSTAG Qs and As (very useful information)

3. FSORAG (draft_FSORAG_with_Preamble_08 1)

Much of this document is very similar to FSTAG, so skimming it is probably adequate. For the A.T. it pertains mainly to facilities, e.g. campsites and shelters. Of particular interest are specifications for:

  • Pg. 19, 4.1, Picnic Tables
  • Pg. 23, 5.2, Tent pads
  • Pg. 24, 5.3, Fire rings
  • Pg. 26, 6.1, Benches
  • Pg. 29, 6.6, Pit Toilets. Referenced ADAAG 4.16.2 is a series of construction drawings which show various acceptable layouts for toilet stalls. The universal dimension is a toilet with clear floor space of approx. 60" X 60", with the toilet riser placed in a back corner. In any of the previously mentioned specifications, any reference to ADAAG dimensions probably is referencing this 60" dimension as appropriate clearance for manuvering a wheelchair. The other univeral dimension is 18", for the height of benches, toilet seats, etc. required for transfer from a wheelchair.

There is no reference to what might be required in a primitive shelter. Likely requirements are a firm and stable flat space in front at least 60" wide, height of 18" for sleeping platform above floor (or ground), appropriate manuvering room on flat, firm and stable ground around any table, fire ring, benches, etc.

4. FSORAG Qs and As (also interesting)

5. Combined comments: Please read these last so as to avoid bias. These are discussions, pro and con, on the FSTAG info. Not required reading to get your comments, but they do provide some interesting back and forth.

(If you can't open them and want to see them, let Morgan know and he'll send a version you can open.)

Thanks again for your help! I'll be in Monday if you have problems or questions.

Morgan


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