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Mud? Ice? High water at stream crossings?

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91762's picture

Does anyone know if Rte 109 in Harriman is closed, or will be closed this winter? Also is the Sebago boat launch area available for overnight parking? Thanks.
johnm's picture

This question was passed to me because I am quite familiar with Harriman Park. However I do not have totally solid answers to some of the items here. Route 106, also now known as Kanawauke Road, west of 7-Lakes Drive is now a Park road. As such it is expected to be closed December one to April one, conditions allowing. Route 106 east of 7-Lakes Drive is a Rockland County Road and is typically not closed. (There is a minor exception to this description of road ownerships but not germane to the issue here.) Park rules are that there is no overnight parking. A related rule is that park users must be at their destination by dark (or sundown?). This means that if authorities see people departing into the woods in or near darkness such folks will be challenged. It is possible that there may be overnight parking exceptions. To request permission contact the New York State Park Police at Bear Mountain, 845-786-2781. Now purely speculating, one's success could depend on whether he/she can be convincing that they know what they are doing, have maps, flashlights, appropriate equipment and experience. The planned destination would surely need to be known. Camping is allowed only at the official shelters as defined on the Trail Conference trail maps. If the shelters are full, camping is allowed in the immediate vicinity.
johnm's picture

My earlier posting was in error wherein I stated that park rules do not allow overnight parking. I checked with the park police today to confirm, contrary to my earlier statement, that overnight parking is allowed in the hikers parking lots. The police advised that if planning an overnight parking the park police should be called and informed. Repeating: New York State Park Police 845-786-2781. The Sebago Boat Launch parking area is considered hikers parking.
rich's picture

Also got "denied access" on the problems link. There were a number of trees down across the trail on the ridge trail. I counted 5 trees with trail blazes down on the trail. The most problematic was the western intersection of the ridge trail with the new red trail from the parking area on Cox road. The tree with the red marker was gone so it was difficult to see that this was the place to change trails. West of this intersection on the Ridge Trail, there were many trees down - almost continuous about .3 miles west (in between 2 old stone walls) to the extent that I had to turn around because it was full of thorns going around the trees. Feel free to contact me for more info. [email protected]
Willy's picture

I tried to report the following matter by using the "problem report form" and/or "go here" links up above but was denied access. So whomever is in charge of these links may want to check that out. There is a very large blow down that is probably quite difficult for less flexible hikers to climb over on the White Bar trail close to its junction with the A-SB/Long Path trail. Walking southward from this blow down there are 3-4 more blow downs on the white bar trail but those are not as large as the one near the trail junction. There is also a large blow down on the Dunning trail as you loop around Green Pond. This fallen tree is wedged awkardly into a narrow part of the trail (rock outcrop) that requires a very quick scramble. This blow down can present a challenge to the less experienced/flexible hiker and makes the scramble a bit dangerous. Thanks in advance to the volunteers/maintainers who will take care of these fallen trees.
johnm's picture

First, I wish to say thanks for reporting the obstructions. As a result, all obstructions on White Bar from its north trail head at the ASB Trail, south to 106, have been cleared. The reported blowdown on the Dunning Trail at Green Pond is indeed large as well as awkward, we decided to not tackle it, though clearing a tree prior to it. It does block the passage, as reported. It could be crawled beneath but a better path is up and over immediately to its right, past the bare roots, presumably the scramble that was noted; either way is over somewhat challenging rock obstructions, but I believe that the up and over, once cleared will be at least as satisfactory as the path now blocked. The maintainer of the trail will be advised to clear that upper passage, and blaze it if practical. The current blaze on the rock is directly between the two, and is ambivalent as to direction, which may suffice once the reroute (of about 6 feet) is established. I am unable to advise you on how to report: I also have no understanding of it, but fortunately it was forwarded to me.
Willy's picture

Thank you for your reply and all the work done to clear the numerous blowdowns I reported on the White Bar trail. Having done some "swamping" for TC chain sawyers in the past, I remember thinking to myself that the blowdown on the Dunning would be quite challenging to clear. It sounds as if you have figured out a good alternative. Thanks again for the good work!
doloreschiller's picture

My friend and I were hiking on Sunday, May 21, for about six hours. We had several ticks appear on our clothing, and both of us found ticks attached when we got home. Fortunately, they were Lone Star ticks and not the black-legged deer ticks, but still -- everyone should be extra vigilant this year, it seems!
bsweet's picture

Just a shout-out and big "thank you" to the trail crew that fixed the deteriorating boardwalk. It's a beauty!
Walt Daniels's picture

Crew lead by Bryan Blackburn, with help from Fred Stern, Connie Stern, Benny Yoo, Herb Hochberg, and Walt Daniels.

bphillips28's picture

Anyone been on the trails in bear since the snow last week? Wondering if it is clear(ish)? Thanks for any feedback.
bsweet's picture

This boardwalk has several boards that have fallen into the marsh as well as others too rotten to step on safely. Not a problem when the marsh was frozen, but now a misstep on a narrow board puts you ankle deep in muck.
Jim Haggett's picture

A grant has been received to fix the puncheon and we are waiting for our lumber supplier to to get the materials we need. Unfortunately, this is taking longer than anticipated. Be assured the puncheon will fixed ASAP
Nick's picture

I've seen mention of a planned loop trail in the vicinity of the old Dicktown Road, in the section of Fahnestock that lies east of the Taconic. There seem to be some flags in place marking a potential route? I live quite close to this area (within walking distance!), and would be happy to help with any needed work.
ron6788's picture

I'm so glad the cool weather is knocking down the gnat population- finally!  They've really been bothering me this year.  Maybe, I'm just getting softer.  I actually quit about 5 hikes this year due to this.
Michael K7's picture

Have you tried hiking with a head net? Lack of bugs is one of the many reasons i prefer hiking in cool/cold weather.
joerichkus's picture

On today's hike I went to the cliffs above Claudius SMith Den for the view and found that someone had pitched a tent and made a fire ring right on the cliff top.  They left a pan with aluminum foil over it on the fire ring.  I was not sure if this encampment was abandoned or if the "camper" was merely not there at the moment.  I thought I should inform the park police as to this illegal encampment but am posting it here.
ron6788's picture

No need to tell the police or even the rangers.  This is fairly common in the park.
RobForan's picture

Hiked Bear Mountain to Sloatsburg yesterday (Sept 18), 1777 E Trail, Timp Pass Road, Red Cross Trail, Welch Drive, then roadwalk to Sloatsburg.  The only water source besides the fountains at Lake Welch was Doodletown Brook, it had some standing water in it that didn't look so bad.  Every other stream I saw was dry or had extremely murky standing water.   I don't know when they shut off the water at Lake Welch, I hope they leave it on for a while.  
ron6788's picture

I would guess fountains will be shut off Oct 31st, same time ancillary roads are closed, if I'm not mistaken.

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