Trail Conditions Forum

Mud? Ice? High water at stream crossings?

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91762's picture

I'm not sure we are talking about the same parking areas. I hiked through the parking area(s) at the North end of Sabago in the beginning of Dec and there was a group there with cars and dogs. They may have been practicing search and rescue. I don't know if they had special permission to be there but they talked as if access from 7 Lakes Dr. was no big deal. I see on the TC map there's a "road closed in winter" symbol on the road I had planned to access the parking areas. Does this mean its not maintained in the winter - proceed at your own risk - or is parking there likely to get you a ticket? Are there any other parking areas available in this area of the park?
PVPatrick's picture

Call the park and let us all know.
91762's picture

I spoke with "Harriman" this AM (845-786-2444). The parking lots at the North end of Lake Sebago are officially closed to public parking due to storm damage. Anyone parking there (assuming you can gain access) is subject to ticketing. Apparenlty the group I saw parked there in December WAS a  group authorized to practice search and rescue. Parking at "Sebago Boat Launch" is open, but that's it for parking around Lake Sebago.
LindaC's picture

Took a short hike from Elk Pen up the AT and over to Island Pond.  There was hard snow with a layer of ice underneath.  With traction (I had crampons but good microspikes shoud be fine too) it was fairly easy going because snow was so hard.  If it gets above freezing it might be another story. It would be great if people posted more here about conditions because you really can't tell what it's like until you're out there.
dbadchem's picture

Thanks in advance for any assistance on this request. We have a boyscout trip scheduled for this upcoming weekend (3-15-14), plan was to hike form Silvermine Parking Lot to the Brien Shelter via the Menomine trail. Does anyone have any current conditions (snow, ice, etc) of the trail and surrounding trails?   Thanks again   Doug
PVPatrick's picture

Harriman currently has a blanket of several inches of slushy snow. Warm temps today and tomorrow plus forecasted rain/wet snow wednesday will melt more of the snow.  Temperatures are forecast to drop below freezing for thursday so remaining snow/streams will become very icy.  However, temperatures are forecast to rise again on Friday and Saturday so you can expect the icy snow to soften during the day,re- icing over at night.
dbadchem's picture

Thanks for the info! We may change our plans, looks like there may be more rain forecasted for Saturday. Doug
In the attic too's picture

Hi Doug,  We are also planning a trip to Harriman the same weekend.  If you come up with any information re: conditions I would appreciate any assistance.  Thanks and enjoy your trip   Dan  
91762's picture

Anyone have any "current" info about trail conditins (snow depth, trail ice/snow melt) in the area around Lake Sebago? Is the western side of Rte 106 is closed? Are the parking areas at the north end of Lake Sebago accessable from 7 Lakes Dr.? Thanks.   Bob
Daniel Chazin's picture

I did a hike yesterday at the southern end of Harriman, starting from the Reeves Meadow Visitor Center.  The ground was covered with about a foot of frozen snow, with the trails well packed down.  In general, the snow was frozen sufficiently that you did not sink in even when walking on untracked snow, but there were places that you would sink in a few inches (occasionally, even more).   I wore StablIcers, which I found very helpful, especially for the steep descents.  My friend did not have any traction devices, but he was able to negotiate the snow conditions without undue difficulty (he did have to slide down one steep slope, though).  I would strongly recommend that, if at all possible, you do wear some kind of traction devices on your boots. The Park has closed Route 106 from Route 17 to just west of the Kanawauke Circle for the winter.  It does not have the resources necessary to plow this road.  However, at the Commission meeting held on Monday, Jim Hall, PIPC's Executive Director, announced that he is trying to work out an arrangement with a local town that would permit the road to be kept open next winter. I do not know the status of the parking area at the northern end of Lake Sebago.  
91762's picture

Bob
PVPatrick's picture

Anyone know what is going on with this project?
Georgette Weir's picture

Thanks for asking. Work is scheduled to resume in March, with the annual Orientation set for Saturday, March 15. Other workshops are already on our calendar. We hope to see you. Your friends, too.

NYHIKER60's picture

On a section of the AT in New Jersey where you  come to a pond with a dam that you walk over and depending on which direction you're going in you either come to a quick uphill or a downhill from the open field on the other side.  This is I think after Pocuck.  There are posted, no tresspassing signs on both sides, left and right right on the trail.  Is this an easement for the trail corrodor, or is this an encroacement?  I thought the trail had a protected corrodor and I was a monitor.  What's up with that?
NYHIKER60's picture

I'm wondering why the walk book is missing some of the trails in Harriman State Park.  The missing trails are the Fawn Trail, the Lichen Trail and the Victory trail.  They are on the maps, but there is no description at all of these trails in the current book.
Daniel Chazin's picture

The New York Walk Book is not intended to be a comprehensive guidebook to all trails in Harriman. Some trails of lesser importance are not included. For a complete description of all of the marked trails (and many of the unmarked trails) in Harriman, you should obtain a copy of Harriman Trails: A Guide and History.
PVPatrick's picture

Kanawauke Lake picnic area parking lot will be kept open in winter...  The lot that has no access to hiking trails without a road walk or hiking on forbidden unmarked park roads/trails.  I wonder how the park employees that live near Lake Stahahe will get out if the plows wont go beyond the bridge?
Georgette Weir's picture

Route 106 in Harriman State Park is now a park road, managed by the Palisades Interstate Park Commission and subject to seasonal closure due to snow and ice. The parking area at Lake Kanawauke will be kept open. Please click here for details.

slabelson's picture

I was hoping to do a New Years Day hike in northern Harriman, possibly around Turkey Hill Lake/Queensboro Lake near the Anthony Wayne Rec. Area.  Can anyone tell me if the trails are icy now?  Possible snow today could create icy conditions for tomorrow, just wondering if anyone has been out in the last day or so.   Thanks & Happy New Year!
banjolady's picture

ice exists but not much. after the upcoming snow on thurs-fri though it will be a different story. as of tues afternoon any ice was easy to get around.

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