Kanape Brook and Ashokan High Point

Overview

Follow an old woods road with a gradual incline along scenic Kanape Brook then ascend more steeply on a footpath with rocky sections to the summit of Ashokan High Point. 

Details
Time:
6 hours
Difficulty:
Strenuous
Length:
9.2 miles
Route Type:
Lollipop
Dogs:
Allowed off leash
Features:
Views, Historic feature
Location
Park:
Region:
County:
Ulster
State:
NY
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First Published:
04/19/2012
Submitter:
Daniela Wagstaff
Trailhead GPS Coordinates
41.935710, -74.328383
Driving Directions
New York State Thruway I-87 to exit 19.  Take NY-28 West for 16.3 miles.  Turn left on  NY-28A/New City Road and continue another 3 miles.  Turn right on County Road 42 to the Kanape Brook parking lot in 4.1 miles on the right.
Description

Beginning of trail at bridge over Kanape Brook.Walk out of the parking lot and turn left on County Road 42 for a short distance.   Cross the road to the right at a red circular trail marker and follow the trail downhill to a very sturdy bridge over Kanape Brook.  This bridge replaced the one destroyed by Hurricane Irene in August 2011.  Shortly after crossing the bridge, sign in at the trail register.

Follow the well-defined woods road, marked with the circular red discs (and every so often a yellow ski trail disc) as it follows along Kanape Brook, complete with babbling brook sounds, then starts to ascend higher above the brook.   About three quarters of a mile into the hike, old stone walls line the woods road.  At 1.5 miles enter an area of mountain laurel before crossing the brook on a wooden footbridge.

Kanape BrookCross several tributaries that feed into Kanape Brook, some via rock hops, others on old culverts.  Pay particular attention to the stream crossing at the 1.9-mile point as it is not obvious where the trail continues on the other side.  Rock hop over, then turn left to see the red markers following along the right bank of the stream.

The trail now leads away from water and arrives at a junction at the 2.7-mile mark.  Do not continue straight ahead as the woods road now enters private property.  The turn is clearly marked with a sign and arrow; turn left leaving the woods road and continue on a footpath.  Just a few steps ahead the trail forks; keep right.  Left will be the return route.  The trail will now start to ascend more steeply.  Up to this point the ascent has been a little over 900 feet in 2.7 miles.  You will now climb another 1,000 feet over the next mile.

Keep left at both 2.95 and 3.05 miles when trails branch off to the right.  There probably won’t be much to see when the trees are in full bloom but without the obstruction of leaves, remember to turn around to enjoy some views on the way up.

At the 3.25-mile point the terrain might remind you of the tiers of a wedding cake.  The trail will ascend steeply on rocks and then level out for a while before ascending steeply and leveling out again.  Just when you think you have reached the top, another level comes into view.  Stone steps built into mountain facilitate the steep rock climbs and you can catch a break (and your breath) on the level sections.

View from Ashokan High Point SummitAt 3.75 miles arrive at the top level, the 3,080-foot high summit of Ashokan High Point.  To the right are views of Roundout Valley and the Shawangunk Ridge.  Graffiti dating back to the latter part of the 1800’s is etched into the rock surfaces.  Two benchmarks and old bolts are anchored into the stone.  The red trail markers continue to the left. 

The views from the summit have become overgrown over the years and are minimal unless the leaves are down.  An optional out-and-back hike on an unmarked, often undefined path, leads to an overlook about a quarter of a mile away on what is sometimes called Little High Point.   A footpath leaves the Ashokan High Point summit area at the northern end but soon fizzles out.  Veering to the right, a bushwhack down a steep section along the ridge will eventually meet up with a more defined path to a campsite in the saddle.  From there a path leads up through dense blueberry patches to outstanding unobstructed views from rock slabs.  

From the Ashokan High Point summit, continue on the red-blazed trail for 1/10ths of a mile to a short unmarked side trail on the left that leads to views.  Retrace and continue on through one blueberry patch veering left into another larger open blueberry patch.  A large fire ring with some stone chairs is a prominent fixture in the clearing.  Use this as your reference point if you want to explore this area as the trail can be difficult to locate with several herd paths crossing in this vicinity.  You may be able to catch a glimpse of the Ashokan Reservoir by following paths to the right depending on the fullness of the foliage.  When finished exploring, return to the fire pit with the stone seating and stand as you would having come in on the trail from the summit.  Turn left at the fire pit,  proceed straight ahead, and you will soon see the familiar red trail markers again. 

The trail will ascend some before making a sharp left turn at the 4.85-mile mark.  Ignore cairns and side trails branching off along the way.  After a level section, the trail will begin to descend more steeply as it becomes a wider path on loose rocks – watch your footing here, it can feel like walking downhill on marbles.

The trail narrows and becomes less rocky as it enters a section of mountain laurel, then widens again upon exiting the mountain laurel at the 6-mile mark.  In another .4 mile, arrive at the fork that brings you full circle from earlier in the hike.  Keep right, then right again as you begin to retrace your steps back on the old woods road.

Watch for that tricky turn at the creek in another .2 mile but in reverse this time.  Turn left at the creek and walk along the left bank a short distance before turning right and rock hopping over to continue following the red markers.

Cross the small wooden foot bridge at the 7.5 mile point, then continue retracing along Kanape Brook all the way back.  Don’t forget to sign out at the trail register before crossing the bridge to return to the parking lot.

Click here for more pictures of this hike.

Turn by turn description
[  0.00]  Exit parking lot, turn left and walk along paved road[  0.05]  Cross road at red trail marker on the right; descend to bridge[  0.10]  Sign in at trail register[  0.75]  Old stone walls along trail[  1.00]  Hemlock grove[  1.30]  Stone-lined spring to the left of the trail[  1.45]  Trail goes through mountain laurel[  1.60]  Cross wooden footbridge[  1.90]  Rock hop creek then turn left where trail follows along opposite side of creek (turn not marked and blazes hard to see)[  2.70]  Turn left at sign (straight is private property) then when trail splits, keep right (left is return route)[  2.85]  Trail ascends more steeply; start to watch behind for seasonal views[  2.95]  Keep left on red when an unmarked trail not on the map goes sharply to the right[  3.05]  Keep left at fork; right ends after short distance at overgrown views[  3.25]  Rock steps ascend then level section; ascents followed by level stretches repeat several times[  3.75]  Summit of Ashokan High Point; views on right, unmaintained trail to Little High Point straight ahead, turn left to stay on red trail[  3.85]  Side trail to left to view; retrace and continue left on red trail[  3.90]  Come out into blueberry field, trail veers left into another open area[  3.95]  Turn left at fire pit with stone seating to remain on red trail[  4.40]  Short ascent[  4.85]  Trail makes sharp turn left; ignore cairns and side trails along trail[  5.25]  After fairly level stretch, trail starts to descend more steeply[  5.40]  Trail becomes woods road and descends steeply on loose rocks[  5.70]  Woods road becomes less rocky footpath through mountain laurel[  6.00]  Footpath becomes woods road after leaving mountain laurel[  6.40]  At trail split turn right, then right again when private land road goes left[  7.20]  Veer left at creek, turn right to rock hop creek, continue straight on red trail (no turn markers here)[  7.50]  Cross wooden footbridge[  9.20]  Back at car

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a way to save time

If you turn off on the second left for Rt. 28A, and realize that there is no sign for Rt. 42, you can save an hour of driving around aimlessly

nice late august hike

had a very enjoyable hike yesterday, following this route exactly as sugguested. My GPS said 9.5  miles back at the parking lot, but i explored a number of side trails along the way. the wife turned her ankle at the top and so we were slow on the decent - all told we took 6.5 hours and i would expect hikers to complete this in 5 hours or less. the section 4.85 to 5.25 miles is very overgrown this year and the laurels have almost overtaken the path. the section 5.4 to 5.7 miles is very eroded - it looks like a major river runs down here every storm and the trail is completely washed out. for the most fun, turn around at 3.95 miles and do this as an out-n-back!

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is camping allowed?

Great Hike!

Did this hike today. Was a great hike, but.... Someone needs to really update all the Trail Markers. There were spots where I had to look back and forth just trying to find the trail. Otherwise, great!

GPS distances different than on map-trail markers sketchy

Using GPS the distance on the first section came to 3.4mi not the 2.7mi listed. The 1.1mi section of loop moved to 1.4mi and the last section of the loop went from 2.5mi to 3.4mi with a round trip of 11.6mi. Someone should confirm this. The back end of the loop followed a very rocky stream bed with a high slip hazard when wet on alge coated stones. Some of the markers were indeed faded and non-existent as trees with markers had in several instances been storm toppled-lost the trail couple of instances on stream crossings. Strenuous is apt for this trail, but can be done in 3.5hrs depending on one's level. I used a good running shoe for lighter weight but something with ankle support would be a benefit on sections of unstable stones. It is a personal preference.

Re: GPS distances different

My name is Jeremy and I am the cartographer here at the Trail Conference.  We appreciate input from individuals like yourself to help make our hike descriptions and maps as accurate as possible.

Without knowing the specifics of your GPS device and its settings, it is difficult to pinpoint the cause of error, but we are confident of the original mileages based on a few factors:

  1. The original distances were measured using a wheel device on the actual trail.  This technique is fairly accurate for trails such as this one, capturing small trail wiggles as well as incorporating elevation-adjusted distances.
  2. Our Geographic Information System (GIS) database of trails, from which our maps are produced, is able to calculate straight-line and elevation-adjusted distances.  These GIS-derived distances match fairly closely with the wheeled distances (less than 4% difference).
  3. GPS measurements are prone to a wide variety of errors.  GPS data can be extremely useful, and we use it to create our trail maps, but due to different kinds of technical issues/errors/settings, one should exercise caution when referring to its data.  As a personal anecdote, just last week I GPSed the same section of trail with two different GPS units, and after 5 miles, there was a 0.5 mile difference between the two!  Satellite configuration, amount of clear sky, GPS chipset, and configuration settings are likely the most common places where GPS error can be introduced.

Thank you again for your input, as this particular comment allowed us to take a close look at these numbers and confirm them.

~Jeremy
TC Cartographer

I use a Garmin Colorado, when

I use a Garmin Colorado, when i hiked this I was surprised how well the distance matched what was predicted on the map. I got 2.68 miles to the end of the woods road, and 1.2 mies to the summit from there. overall i got 9.5 miles for the whole circuit, but i followed some side trails and explored around in addition to hiking the route. overall i agree with Jeremy's comments... GPS can be very accurate under ideal conditions but if your readings diverge from the map then the map is probably correct. i would say, if you stop frequently GOS can have you moving around a 30' circle causing your overall distance measurered to be exagerated by a significant amount.

Lower Point

Thanks for this helpful description.  It'd be even more helpful if someone who's been down to "Little High Point" or "Lower Point" or whatever it's called would make a cairn or some other marker to indicate the way down. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's lost quite a bit of time, daylight, and energy to trying to figure out the way in more foliate seasons.  The description above says that it's about a 1/4 mile to the point but neglects to mention how much of a descent it is. The topo map in conjunction with this description is confusing. If it's a big descent, say so! The link and the pictures at the blog are also misleading since the view from Little Point says "Part of the view from Little High Point.  Ashokan High Point is the mountain on the right" but the mountain on the right looks far more than a 1/4 of a mile away as it looms over the view in the photo! While this is still a great hike even with so much foliage still up, clearer instructions on this part would have been great and I would have loved to have seen the views.  If you've never done this hike before, be mindful of the poor blazing....red discs are rare and many are old enough to have faded to fall foliage color. Many others are cracked or missing. At one point I only found the trail because a kind hiker ahead of me had picked a disc up off the ground an hung it from a twig!