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Mud? Ice? High water at stream crossings?

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jbeard's picture

  I hiked a loop from Lake Skannatati parking, using the ASB, LP, White Bar and Dunning. About half the time the trail was dry and clear, most of the rest of the time it was packed snow. Stream crossings—lots of water is flowing—were tricky. Some rocks and logs were icy.
kviola's picture

Planning an early morning hike this Saturday Feb 6 up Hook Mtn.. the loop trail. Anyone know trail conditions/probably the snow will melt away next couple of days. Also wondering if that lower parking lot is open.
Lone Ranger's picture

hey thinking of hiking deep hollow around to Claudius smith den tomorrow, anyone know now conditions? Good for snow shoes possibly?
banjolady's picture

Microspikes. We.. were in that area on Wednesday and everything was mushy but nothing that deep. Conditions are very changeable it was a little icier today further south at reeves meadow
jamison.tilsner's picture

I'm curious what the current conditions are on the AT near Arden Valley Road in Harrmiman. Any thoughts on microspikes versus snowshoes this weekend?
daniloworks's picture

Hi, I am thinking of doing a jog/hike from the GW bridge to Nyack this Sunday, 1/31/16. Does anyone know how things look on the trail right now? Icy? Muddy? Ok? Any info is appreciated. Thanks, DT
Dave A's picture

Does anyone know if the parking area for Cascade Lake Park (Warwick NY just over the NJ border) gets plowed in the winter? Thanks.
banjolady's picture

does anyone know how much snow there needs to be before the snowmobiles start using lake welch drive?
joerichkus's picture

Yesterday I was on the HTS (Hillburn-Torne-Sebago) trail, heading north, and between the Racoon Brook Hills Trail and the gasline cut.  At a point where the trail descends into a birch forest, I slipped on ice that was under the thin layer of snow and slammed down on the base of my spine.  I slipped again later at another similar point of sloped and hidden ice.  I should have been wearing traction aids but neglected to bring them as I didn't realize that there would be many places on the trail that were quite icy.  Just be forewarned.  It's time to start carrying microspikes or stabilicers in the pack.
banjolady's picture

its tricky because until today there was ice only sporadically on the trails and wearing traction aids could be more annoying than helpful. after today all bets are off--may need snowshoes!!
af8567's picture

Planning a short trip from the Water Gap to High point SP for the spring. I'm wondering when the best time to plan would be regarding weather. I'd like to be over 40 degrees over night and have the foliage begining to grow in to block some wind. I understand the weather is a moving target but I can't find historical averages for specific times of the year to plan when to go. I'm thinking early April?? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Estelle's picture

This part of NJ doesn't really get foliage cover until we are into May.     I agree, AccuWeather is good for giving some long range forecasts.  Probably best to check as it gets closer to the time you want to hike.  Depending on the rest of this winter, early April could still find snow on the trails at the Gap and up at High Point.      good luck!
Schwinn1979's picture

I personally like Accuweather - it will give you historical averages for any city you ask (high-low avg temps, ect) As far as the foliage Im not really sure.
banjolady's picture

someone told me they heard that harriman park was going to be expanded into the NW part of the park near mt aramah. i looked around and could not find any info on this. has anyone heard this??? my friend said it was in the orange county paper a few weeks ago but i couldnt find it...thanks
tree188's picture

12/20/2015 Trail was clear and easy to follow.  About 25 people were met on this section, over the day's trip, enjoying the lack of snow and cooler weather.  Nicest part are the ledges on both sides of Peter's Kill & Falls in Minnewaska State Park.  The trail in the Mohonk Preserve has some great views to the north of the Catskill Mountains, now that all the tree leaves are down.   The only annoyance is the $12 per person fee to walk through Mohonk Preserve.  Seems a bit expensive and excessive, compared to the fees the Palisades Interstate Park Commission charges to park and gain access to Minnewaska.  Probably will not go here again at this price.
91762's picture

What are the plans for Route 106 this winter? Any closings - if so, where, dates? Are any of the parking areas on TC Map 118 effected?
RichardL's picture

I called the park police today to ask about Route 106, they told be that "the park section" was closed on 12/1.
johnm's picture

Available information is that the park expects to close the section of 106 that is a park Road. Whether or not it will be closed on Dec 1 as with other selected park roads as in past years or possibly delayed until first snow fall or freeze, I have not learned.  When closed we can expect it to be closed from just west of the Kanawauke Lake parking lot to Rt. 17 with two possible exceptions: Possibly the road will be open from Rt. 17 to the small pull-off for the Parker Cabin Hollow Trail, and also possibly the Ramapo RIver Access (between the Ramapo RIver and Thruway Crossing of 106 just east of Rt. 17) may be kept open, though it would not be priority for immediate attention.   Though the Kanawauke lot is expected to be available, note that no official or maintained trails are available from that lot except if one walks westerly on the road to the various trail crossings.  Walking the road when there is limited travel is not a bad experience (minor useage occurs as needed for a few residences and possible need for camp access.) 
bsweet's picture

The trailhead at Arden Point on Lower Station Road (right by the Garrison train station) has parking for about two cars.  On Monday I went there to take a hike and there is a No Parking Anytime sign posted now.  Does the TC know why that sign has been posted there and what our alternatives are other than paying to park at the station lot?
Jeremy Apgar's picture

Parking for this trailhead on Lower Station Road is available in the train station parking lot, which is free on weekends but has a fee during weekdays.  The nearest alternative parking area is at the Garrison Institute and Glenclyffe a little further south on Route 9D.  From the parking area off the entrance road, you can follow trails up to Arden Point or as a loop around the Glenclyffe property.  Both of these parking areas, and the trails themselves, are shown on our East Hudson Trails map of the area.The "No Parking Any Time" signs have been up in that area since at least 2013, and likely even longer ago than that.  I'm unsure the specific reason for the signs, but I might suggest that section of road is fairly narrow with hardly any shoulder, so authorities may have decided for safety concerns to restrict parking at that small shoulder area at the trailhead.~Jeremy, TC Cartographer