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banjolady's picture

snow is melting fast. we might get another couple inches tomorrow but i would bet that snowshoes wont be necessary. this week the trails are wet and sometimes icy but definitely passable without snowshoes. bring gaiters and waterproof boots though
joegig's picture

great,thanks for the update!  here on long island, at sea level, the trails are all covered in about 3 inches of ice.  I was thinking about postponing it but it sounds like I might not have to pass on my trip after all.  
sueeilers's picture

The conditions required snowshoes throughout our 4-mile hike up the Seven Hills and via the Pine Meadow Road to the red ski trail.The snow was very soft so going was difficult because we kept slipping off the packed area into the softer sides. Fear of twisting ankles and knees made us use caution and go much slower than would otherwise have been the case.
Jmyhall's picture

Hello, I am thinking of taking some friends on the Bonticou Crag hike next weekend, the 21st, I know that it is a week away, but was wondering anyone had some thoughts on what the conditions might be.  We have had a lot of snow this year and want to make sure it is safe to climb up the rock scramble.  Any advise would be appreciated.  Thanks Jim
yankeepride's picture

Does anyone have any updated info on what this recent warm streak has left us with on the Long Path? I'm looking at doing section 5 on Saturday if it doesn't rain, and wanted to know if it's just a slushy mess, or something else I can work around with boots, snowshoes, or microspikes.
Purple Octopus's picture

Did the Silvermine Lake Loop yesterday.  Conditions were excellent, with the trail very packed down, 10-18 inch base.  We wore the spikes but left the snowshoes in the car. All went well until we were on the way back, opposite shore of the lake, following Silvermine Road.  The packed down trail was right next to the shoreline, then it turned left and went to the water's edge.  And that was it.  Ahead, Silvermine Road from the middle of the lakeshore all the way to 7 Lakes Drive, was untouched. We post holed that entire distance with snow coming up to our knees before emerging onto 7 Lakes Drive. Lesson learned - if you do have snowshoes, just wear them.  Even if the trail is packed down, it's still fine to walk it in snowshoes.  And you'll be prepared if suddenly, you actually need them.
carterman81's picture

Hey everyone! I'm suppose to co lead a hike this weekend and we were planning on doing some hiking in Harriman. Our plan was to start from the Tuxedo train station and take the Ramapo Dunderberg Trail to Tuxedo-Mt Ivy to a Blue Disk. Anyone know the trail conditions in this area. Thanks so much!
Daniel Chazin's picture

I was in Harriman yesterday.  There is currently about a foot of snow on the ground.  Some trails are well packed and can easily be negotiated without snowshoes, but others may not be packed, and snowshoes may be necessary.  Also, traction aids (such as MicroSpikes) are highly recommended, especially for steep climbs and descents, such as the Blue Disc Trail up to the top of Almost Perpendicular. Of course, a storm is predicted for Sunday, which may bring ice and/or rain to the area.  This will change the conditions significantly.
dap387's picture

Can any comment on the depth of snow on the Timp-Torne, and R-D trails starting from Anthony Wayne Rec Center as well as the West Mountain Shelter? I am planning an overnight there this weekend. Can this be done with microspikes but without snowshoes?   Thanks,
ron6788's picture

I did a hike yesterday at Harriman on the 7 Hills trail.  Really deep snow on the mountain tops, about 2 feet.  Lower parts of the trail were well trodden and easy walking, though.  I'd recommend light traction devices for going up and down but you could probably get away with none on the flatter parts.  Myself, I had Yax Trax light on one foot and nothing on the other and it was okay.  No ice on the trail, just snow. It's serious winter in Harriman this year, maybe the most I've seen.  Lake Sebago looked like a vast snowfield.  In fact, I forgot it was supposed to be a lake.  Nice blue ice formations hanging off rock cliffs along 7 Lakes. Parks Dept did a great job keeping 7 Lakes clear, not just the road, but the shoulders!  That was so important yesterday for those of us that like to do winter bicycling and running.
dap387's picture

Hi, thanks for the bulletin! I was thinking of doing an overnight at one of the lean-to's in Harriman next weekend. Do you think those areas are unreachable at this point? If we don't get any more snowfall, are they likely to be cleared up by then?
banjolady's picture

1/27/15  though we didnt get the blizzard of the century,  we  do have lots of nice snow in harriman today--went xc skiing from sebago and conditions were lovely, some powder on a good base.  some people were using snowshoes last weekend. apparently the local ski areas are open --fahnestock and the gunks...and most of the tri state area should have some decent xc skiing and hiking...
Purple Octopus's picture

Did the Silvermine Lake loop with a quick extension up & down Black Mountain for the viewpoint. The route was around 75% solid ice on the trail, around 2 inches thick.  Seems that there was snow on the trail, then rain fell on top of the snow, then temps dropped before any of that could melt & the result was ice all over trails which don't usually accumulate water.   YakTrax or MicroSpikes were essential.  There was no way this hike could be done without the extra traction.   I'm assuming after today's snow that conditions will be similar, though the ice will be hidden under the new snow, making for even more challenging hiking.
johnm's picture

In response to the question posed on January 13: Route 106 within Rockland County is not closed in winter.  There is a fine roadside parking area along the south side of the road where the SBM crosses, as shown on the Trail Conference Harriman-Bear Mountain Trails Map.  This location is my recommendation though this is not a Park road and there is no assurance that the parking area will be cleared.  Parking areas also exist on Route 75, Call Hollow Road, at approximately the same distance from the shelter as from 106.  These are also not along a park road and their condition is less desirable, particularly for overnight parking- close to the edge of a highly traveled road and questionable condition of the lot, among the considerations.  There is no parking along Lake Welch Drive where the Long Path crosses (or elsewhere on the Drive).  Note too, that St. John's Road is a park road and the Park rule to not park along Park Roads is commonly enforced.  The St. John's Church lot is signed as no-parking and the church is serious about it. 
91762's picture

Can someone advise as to the current (winter) parking availability near the subject Shelter off Rte 98, 75 and/or 106? Is parking available close to where the S_BM Trail crosses Rte 106? Realizing the current parking availability, what is the most direct route to the Shelter? Finally, if anyone has been there lately, any info on trail conditions or availability of water in the area would be appreciated. Thanks. Bob
btsullivan@post.com's picture

Trails are closed for XC skiing and shoeshoes.  About 2.5 inches of snow fell overnight.  That is the total amount on the ground at this time.  Still not enough to ski yet, please check back later for updated information.
horicon@post.com's picture

Not  enough snow for skiing...  Plenty of cold weather.
ron6788's picture

Anybody been up to Harriman and/or Hudson Highlands lately?  I'm just wondering if there's snow or ice on the paths so I know what shoes I can wear.  Thanks.
Daniel Chazin's picture

I was in Harriman yesterday, and there was essentially no snow or ice.  However, some snow probably fell there today, so if you are going tomorrow (Sunday), you might want to bring MicroSpikes or Stabilicers.
ron6788's picture

thanks